The authors' signal floor removes 92% of non-occupied genes from the menin table, and all of the occupied ones survive
The published table of menin measurements does not contain every gene - the authors kept only genes with enough signal. All the fusion's target genes make the cut; nine out of ten of the others do not. So 'menin did not change elsewhere' means 'at the other places where menin was detectable', not 'everywhere in the genome'.
The same thing, for a scientist
A filter must report what it removed. The deposited channel sheets are floored on the authors' stated criteria - *'2 fold enrichment over input'* and *'reads > 200 in either DMSO or VHL'* - written in the `Menin TSS 3h` sheet itself. Against a 19,168-gene HA universe: MENIN keeps 6,036 genes, DOT1L 4,561, CDK9 4,756, AFF4 3,138, H3K79me2 5,795, Pol II TSS 13,118, H3K4me3 13,810, MLL1 C-terminal 1,249. **Stratum survival is strongly asymmetric.** For MENIN, **100%** of the authors' 200 target genes survive but only **8.3%** (717 of 8,672) of the bottom half of the HA ranking does. For MLL1 C-terminal it is 34.5% and 4.6%; for DOT1L 89.0% and 11.0%; for AFF4 75.0% and 6.0%. **Consequence, stated plainly:** the 'no change at non-occupied genes' figure of 0.974 is computed on menin sites that happen to lack a fusion, not on the rest of the genome. That is the right comparator - menin loss cannot be measured where there is no menin - but it is not the comparator the phrase suggests.
Does the filter bias the result?
The filter is an OR across arms (>200 reads in DMSO or dTAG-VHL), so it retains genes that gained signal as well as genes that lost it, which is the non-biasing form. The residual concern is that it is applied on raw counts and the arms differ in depth. The direction of any residual bias is toward retaining genes with high signal in at least one arm, which inflates the apparent stability of the surviving low-HA genes - i.e. it runs against the finding of a stratum gap, not in favour of it.
The channel where this nearly disqualifies the comparison
MLL1 C-terminal keeps only 69 of 200 target genes. Its negative stratum gap is therefore an estimate from 69 occupied and 401 non-occupied genes, and it is used in this beat only as a qualitative negative control, never as a magnitude.
| script | analyses/menin-retention-by-ha-occupancy/analyze_tss.py |
|---|---|
| status | run |
| result summary | Per-channel sheet sizes against a 19,168-gene universe, and per-stratum survival percentages, are tabulated in results.json under primary_result_3h_HK_normalised_TSS_ratio.channels[*].strata[*].pct_of_stratum_surviving_sheet_filter. MENIN: 100% of occupied, 8.3% of non-occupied. |
| peak width ratio note | Signal instrument; no peak-width ratio applies. |
inputs
[ "GSE173599_TSS_gene_body_signal_Figure3.xlsx", "GSE173599_ChIPseq_TSS_Figure3_revisions.xlsx", "GSE173599_TSS_signal_HA_ChIPs.xlsx" ]
- A pharmacodynamic assay that only reports genes above a signal floor will report a drug as having no off-target chromatin effect simply because the off-target sites were filtered out before the comparison.
- Would recomputing from the raw reads without the authors' floor change the non-occupied MENIN figure? The BAMs are deposited (23 GB) and were not downloaded.
names what the authors' floor removed: all occupied genes survive, 8.3% of non-occupied ones do
- related to →A housekeeping normalisation defines the global change to be zero, so only redistribution is measurable
second reason a level from these tables is not an absolute quantity