hyp-q117's prediction 5 is stored TWICE in one entry, in sections[0].body_md and in data.predictions[4], and the two strings differ - here is the scored outcome and the ALL-CAPS cashed text proposed for both locations, with the clause-by-clause verdict a one-line 'confirmed' would have hidden
also called prediction 5, cashed · the two stored strings · proposed text for the coordinator
A prediction written two years of cycles ago has now been tested, but only one of its three parts could be tested, and that part came out half right. This entry writes down exactly what was and was not answered, in the form the project uses for a settled prediction.
The same thing, for a scientist
**Rule 96 requires that when a falsifier or prediction is answered, the outcome is written INTO it with a leading ALL-CAPS status phrase, and that the original text is not deleted.** Q124 established that prediction 5 of `hyp-q117-menin-inhibition-evicts-the-fusion-without-redistributing-it-to-a-recognisable-programme` exists as **two different strings in one entry**, and both were re-read from disk this session [E1]: | field path | verbatim | |---|---| | `sections[0].body_md`, heading *'Predictions, in the order they become cheap'*, list item **5** | *"**In a PCGF1 or BCOR knockout, the fusion is evicted normally but the vacated sites are not silenced**, and the programme returns on drug withdrawal. The depositing paper's NTvKO arm is the relevant deposit and this beat did not touch it."* | | `data.predictions[4]` | *"in a PCGF1 or BCOR knockout the fusion is evicted normally but the vacated sites are not silenced and the programme returns on drug withdrawal"* | **They differ**: the `body_md` version carries a trailing sentence about the deposit which the `data.predictions` version does not, and the emphasis markers differ. **Both need the outcome appended and the `body_md` version's trailing sentence is now false** - the NTvKO arm has been touched. **The verdict is PARTLY REFUTED AND PARTLY CONFIRMED and it needs both words.** Of three clauses and a disjunction, **one clause was scored for one of the two named genes**: the silencing clause, for PCGF1. Its premise about the control genotype - never previously measured - is confirmed, and the clause as written about the knockout is refuted, because the sites are still silenced there, just less [E2]. **This entry does not edit `hyp-q117-...`.** The text below is proposed for the coordinator to append to both locations.
PROPOSED CASHED-OUTCOME TEXT - append to BOTH locations, do not replace the original
PARTLY REFUTED AND PARTLY CONFIRMED, RUN IN CYCLE 88 (Q125). Original: "In a PCGF1 or BCOR knockout, the fusion is evicted normally but the vacated sites are not silenced, and the programme returns on drug withdrawal." SCORED: only the SILENCING clause, only for PCGF1, only in murine MLL-AF9 (GSE260742, cell line MLLAF9, myeloid, blood, taxid 10090), only at 2 kb resolution on the FLAG-defined top-0.1% set of U_m (1,228 bins), 500 nM VTP-50469 48 h against DMSO 72 h. (1) THE PREMISE ABOUT THE CONTROL IS CONFIRMED AND HAD NEVER BEEN MEASURED: in a normal cell the vacated sites ARE silenced, and the effect is graded by eviction depth - across Q117's four eviction quartiles the H2AK119ub share ratio runs 1.4450/1.1483/1.1238/1.0630 (paired) and 1.0151/0.9063/0.8878/0.8584 (rep2), H3K27me3 2.0007/1.5120/1.1304/0.9780, all Spearman +1.000 against eviction depth, while H3K4me3 runs 0.9491/1.1298/1.1761/1.2025, Spearman -1.000, against DMSO-decile-matched nulls flat to within 0.007. (2) THE CLAUSE AS WRITTEN IS REFUTED FOR THE PCGF1 KNOCKOUT: the vacated sites are STILL silenced there, just LESS - H2AK119ub at the most-evicted quartile 1.4450 -> 1.1325 and 1.0151 -> 0.8842, H3K27me3 2.0007 -> 1.0134 - and the knockout's residual gain is still eviction-graded (Spearman +1.000, paired). The correct statement is ATTENUATED, NOT ABOLISHED, which is what a PCGF1 knockout should look like when the antibody (NEB 8240S) reads H2AK119ub from any PRC1 and PCGF1 is one of six PCGF paralogs. (3) AGGREGATED over all 1,228 bins the same comparison is UNDECIDED (|R_KO - R_NT| = 0.0813 against thresholds of 0.0584 and 0.2089) and the control's own aggregate effect is 1.0383, i.e. essentially nothing - the gradient is what carries the result and the aggregate averages it away. (4) NOT SCORED: 'the fusion is evicted normally' - no FLAG, MLL1 or MENIN track exists in the NTvKO arm by title, although GSM8123407-412 carry ChIP_FLAG filenames AND a ChIP_FLAG string in their own TDF headers while being titled H2AK119ub, so this clause MAY be reachable from this deposit and the channel could not be settled. (5) NOT SCORED AND UNREACHABLE FROM THE WHOLE SERIES: 'the programme returns on drug withdrawal' - no washout arm exists in any of the 158 records. (6) NOT SCORED: 'or BCOR' - the series' only genetic perturbation is the PCGF1 knockout. RESIDUAL CAVEATS: no spike-in, so every number is a within-sample share blind to uniform change; VTP is 48 h against a 72 h vehicle so every ratio is a lower bound; the knockout is one guide, one clone, no rescue and no deposited PCGF1 measurement; and no transcriptional readout exists for these cells, so 'silenced' means two repressive marks up and one active mark down. Evidence: ana-q125-the-menin-inhibitor-does-silence-the-sites-it-evicts-the-fusion-from-and-the-effect-is-graded-by-how-much-fusion-left, ana-q125-losing-pcgf1-reduces-the-silencing-of-the-vacated-sites-without-abolishing-it-in-both-repressive-marks.
And a second amendment the coordinator should consider, in the same entry
data.falsifiers[3], the SUBSTITUTION ARM, reads: "If RING1B's within-sample share ratio at fusion-held bins under VTP50469 is within 0.1 of its value in the least-evicted quartile - that is, if the Q1-versus-Q4 difference of 1.38 against 0.88 does not reproduce - in a second replicate or a second dataset, the displacement-coupled...".
It is not cashed by this beat and it is now partly addressable. The falsifier asks about RING1B occupancy; this beat measured the mark RING1B deposits, in the same quartiles, in a different culture of the same line, twice. The Q1-versus-Q4 difference for H2AK119ub is 1.4450 - 1.0630 = 0.3820 (paired) and 1.0151 - 0.8584 = 0.1567 (rep2), against RING1B's 1.3808 - 0.8792 = 0.5016. Both exceed the 0.1 non-reproduction threshold, so the pattern reproduces in a different channel - but a mark is not an occupancy and the falsifier names RING1B, so this is offered as supporting information rather than as the falsifier's outcome. Whether to append it is the coordinator's call and this beat does not assume it.
What a one-line 'confirmed' would have hidden
Six things, each of which changes what a reader should do next:
- the clause is refuted for the knockout, not confirmed - the sites ARE still silenced there;
- its premise about the control had never been measured and is the larger new fact;
- the aggregate says UNDECIDED and the gradient says the answer - a reader quoting the aggregate would reach the opposite conclusion from a reader quoting the quartiles, and both numbers are in this beat's results file;
- two of three clauses were not scored, one of them unreachable from the entire series;
- the disjunction was half-tested - BCOR has no knockout anywhere in the deposit;
- the
body_mdversion's own trailing sentence, 'this beat did not touch it', is now false and will mislead anyone who reads the prediction without the appended outcome.
| script | analyses/q125-the-h2ak119ub-arm-of-the-pcgf1-knockout/run.py |
|---|---|
| status | run |
| target entry | hyp-q117-menin-inhibition-evicts-the-fusion-without-redistributing-it-to-a-recognisable-programme |
| proposed cashed text | PARTLY REFUTED AND PARTLY CONFIRMED, RUN IN CYCLE 88 (Q125). Original: "In a PCGF1 or BCOR knockout, the fusion is evicted normally but the vacated sites are not silenced, and the programme returns on drug withdrawal." SCORED: only the SILENCING clause, only for PCGF1, only in murine MLL-AF9 (GSE260742, cell line MLLAF9, myeloid, blood, taxid 10090), only at 2 kb resolution on the FLAG-defined top-0.1% set of U_m (1,228 bins), 500 nM VTP-50469 48 h against DMSO 72 h. (1) THE PREMISE ABOUT THE CONTROL IS CONFIRMED AND HAD NEVER BEEN MEASURED: in a normal cell the vacated sites ARE silenced, and the effect is graded by eviction depth - across Q117's four eviction quartiles the H2AK119ub share ratio runs 1.4450/1.1483/1.1238/1.0630 (paired) and 1.0151/0.9063/0.8878/0.8584 (rep2), H3K27me3 2.0007/1.5120/1.1304/0.9780, all Spearman +1.000 against eviction depth, while H3K4me3 runs 0.9491/1.1298/1.1761/1.2025, Spearman -1.000, against DMSO-decile-matched nulls flat to within 0.007. (2) THE CLAUSE AS WRITTEN IS REFUTED FOR THE PCGF1 KNOCKOUT: the vacated sites are STILL silenced there, just LESS - H2AK119ub at the most-evicted quartile 1.4450 -> 1.1325 and 1.0151 -> 0.8842, H3K27me3 2.0007 -> 1.0134 - and the knockout's residual gain is still eviction-graded (Spearman +1.000, paired). The correct statement is ATTENUATED, NOT ABOLISHED, which is what a PCGF1 knockout should look like when the antibody (NEB 8240S) reads H2AK119ub from any PRC1 and PCGF1 is one of six PCGF paralogs. (3) AGGREGATED over all 1,228 bins the same comparison is UNDECIDED (|R_KO - R_NT| = 0.0813 against thresholds of 0.0584 and 0.2089) and the control's own aggregate effect is 1.0383, i.e. essentially nothing - the gradient is what carries the result and the aggregate averages it away. (4) NOT SCORED: 'the fusion is evicted normally' - no FLAG, MLL1 or MENIN track exists in the NTvKO arm by title, although GSM8123407-412 carry ChIP_FLAG filenames AND a ChIP_FLAG string in their own TDF headers while being titled H2AK119ub, so this clause MAY be reachable from this deposit and the channel could not be settled. (5) NOT SCORED AND UNREACHABLE FROM THE WHOLE SERIES: 'the programme returns on drug withdrawal' - no washout arm exists in any of the 158 records. (6) NOT SCORED: 'or BCOR' - the series' only genetic perturbation is the PCGF1 knockout. RESIDUAL CAVEATS: no spike-in, so every number is a within-sample share blind to uniform change; VTP is 48 h against a 72 h vehicle so every ratio is a lower bound; the knockout is one guide, one clone, no rescue and no deposited PCGF1 measurement; and no transcriptional readout exists for these cells, so 'silenced' means two repressive marks up and one active mark down. Evidence: ana-q125-the-menin-inhibitor-does-silence-the-sites-it-evicts-the-fusion-from-and-the-effect-is-graded-by-how-much-fusion-left, ana-q125-losing-pcgf1-reduces-the-silencing-of-the-vacated-sites-without-abolishing-it-in-both-repressive-marks. |
| also now false in the body md version | the trailing sentence 'The depositing paper's NTvKO arm is the relevant deposit and this beat did not touch it' - the NTvKO arm has now been binned in three histone channels |
| secondary amendment offered not asserted | data.falsifiers[3], the SUBSTITUTION ARM, asks whether Q117's Q1-vs-Q4 RING1B difference of 1.38 against 0.88 reproduces. This beat measured the MARK and not RING1B: Q1-Q4 = 0.3820 (paired) and 0.1567 (rep2) against RING1B's 0.5016, both above the 0.1 non-reproduction threshold. Offered as supporting information; the falsifier names RING1B and is not cashed. |
| absence class | measured-not-analysed |
| absence class note | Prediction 5 named GSE260742's NTvKO arm as 'the relevant deposit' in cycle 68 and the deposit was public from 2025-11-23. It went unbinned through cycles 68-87, was declined with accessions by Q122 in cycle 82 and priced at twelve downloads by Q124 in cycle 83. Two of its three clauses remain unscored: the eviction clause is MEASURED-NOT-SEARCHED (six files may be the required FLAG track and their channel is unresolved) and the withdrawal clause is NEVER-MEASURED in this series. |
| absence class assigned | 2026-09-23 (Q125) |
target fields
[ "sections[0].body_md (list item 5, heading 'Predictions, in the order they become cheap')", "data.predictions[4]" ]
- The proposed text is long, and a long cashed outcome is less likely to be read than a short one. The six things a one-line 'confirmed' would have hidden are each load-bearing, so the length is deliberate - but if the coordinator shortens it, the clause-by-clause scoring is the part that must survive.
- Should a prediction be stored once and referenced from the prose rather than duplicated? This entry proposes appending the same outcome to two fields because that is what the current structure requires, and the structure is the problem.
- How many other predictions in this corpus are stored twice with drift between the copies? Q124 found this one; no corpus-wide check exists.
- E1strong confidence 4 of 5: Replicated in peer-reviewed work by more than one group.dataset
hyp-q117-menin-inhibition-evicts-the-fusion-without-redistributing-it-to-a-recognisable-programme stores prediction 5 in two places with different text: sections[0].body_md list item 5 carries a trailing sentence naming the NTvKO arm as 'the relevant deposit' which data.predictions[4] does not, and both were read from disk in this session.
Q125 re-analysis of GSE260742: both stored strings of hyp-q117 prediction 5, read from data/graph/nodes/q117-gained-fusion-occupancy/ this session. analyses/q125-the-h2ak119ub-arm-of-the-pcgf1-knockout/run.py, deviation1_hg38_container.py, deviation2_quartiles_and_conventions.py, deviation3_matched_null.py and results.json, run 2026-09-23 · Iqbal Lab oncofusion knowledge graph 2026What this evidence cannot show
Quoted from an entry in this repository, which this beat does not own and does not edit. The duplication was first reported by Q124; this entry re-read both fields rather than inheriting the observation, and confirms the difference. Whether other predictions in the same entry are also duplicated with drift was NOT checked across the corpus.
Evidence that argues against this (1)
- E2moderate confidence 3 of 5: One strong study, or several smaller consistent ones.dataset
Prediction 5's silencing clause scores PARTLY REFUTED AND PARTLY CONFIRMED: in the control genotype the vacated sites are silenced with a gradient in eviction depth (H2AK119ub Spearman +1.000 in two conventions, H3K27me3 +1.000, H3K4me3 -1.000), and in the PCGF1 knockout they are still silenced but less (H2AK119ub at the most-evicted quartile 1.4450 -> 1.1325 and 1.0151 -> 0.8842, H3K27me3 2.0007 -> 1.0134), so 'are not silenced' is too strong; the eviction clause was not scored, the withdrawal clause is unreachable from all 158 samples, and BCOR has no knockout in the series.
Q125 re-analysis of GSE260742: the full criterion set S1-S5, V1-V4, G1-G2, N1-N4 and refutations RA-RE. analyses/q125-the-h2ak119ub-arm-of-the-pcgf1-knockout/run.py, deviation1_hg38_container.py, deviation2_quartiles_and_conventions.py, deviation3_matched_null.py and results.json, run 2026-09-23 · Iqbal Lab oncofusion knowledge graph 2026What this evidence cannot show
NO SPIKE-IN NORMALISATION IS POSSIBLE. Q117 verified zero hits for the entire spike-in vocabulary across all 419,824 characters of GSE260742's 158 sample records and no scale factor is deposited, so every cross-condition number here is a WITHIN-SAMPLE SHARE, which cancels the unknown per-sample scale factor exactly and IS BLIND TO A UNIFORM CHANGE BY CONSTRUCTION. Nothing here measures any mark's abundance; everything measures its distribution. EXPOSURE ASYMMETRY: DMSO 72 h and SGC0946 5 uM 72 h are matched, VTP-50469 500 nM is 48 h, so every VTP ratio is a LOWER BOUND on the 72-hour effect - identical in both genotypes, so the genotype DIFFERENCE is unaffected. REAGENTS: H2AK119ub is Ubiquityl-Histone H2A (Lys119) (D27C4) XP Rabbit mAb, NEB 8240S, and it CANNOT distinguish PRC1.1 from canonical PRC1 - RING1A/B is the ligase in both and PCGF1 is one of six PCGF paralogs - nor deposition from loss of a deubiquitinase. The H3K27me3 and H3K4me3 reagents are NOT RESOLVED and are recorded unresolved rather than guessed; `antibod` occurs zero times in the 158 GEO records. S_FLAG is defined by DYKDDDDK Tag (D6W5B) Rabbit mAb, NEB 14793S, on a RETROVIRALLY OVER-EXPRESSED tagged MLLAF9 construct, so it is the over-expressed molecule's sites and not an endogenous fusion's. THE KNOCKOUT is one CRISPR guide, one clone C1, no second clone, no rescue and NO deposited PCGF1 protein or transcript measurement. SYSTEM: murine MLL-AF9 (KMT2A::MLLT3) myeloid blood cells, NOT the infant B-lineage KMT2A::AFF1 disease this graph is about. The quartile-level genotype difference is a POST HOC application of this beat's thresholds to pre-registered per-quartile numbers. The aggregate comparison, which IS pre-registered, returns UNDECIDED; both are in the proposed text.
Evidence that argues against this (1)
scores prediction 5 clause by clause and proposes cashed text for both stored strings
the clause decomposition this entry scores